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From: (Anonymous)

Tempest is utterly disgusting me. She's saying, on Twitter, essentially: "White women, you are only defending POC now, where were you in 2009? White women suck. You only care about this when it's RH."

Yeah, I'm paraphrasing.

But you know what, Tempest? I'm a POC woman. I'm an American black woman with Native American ancestry. And I'm queer, if you need more points, and I have a mental illness, and I belong to a minority religion, because I guess in your world it's necessary to disclose all. And yeah, I've been defended by white women--not just now, but in 2009, when plenty of white women supported the voices of POC women during Racefail. White women supported me against the various white men who tried to take over SFWA. Did white women attack me, too? Sure. So have brown women. But white women supported me. This isn't the first goddamn time.

And yes, they're supporting me now, against RH, who attacked and silenced and threatened and blackmailed me.

This is not the first time white women have supported me, and it makes me furious that you are disvaluing the actively helpful work of allies.

But that's not the worst thing. The worst thing isn't that you're disvaluing the work of white women. (Because god knows you'd be all "o noes white women, white women aren't shit.")

The worst thing is that you're erasing me. You are actively, deliberately, and--I think--maliciously eliding me from the discussion. Plenty of POC women like me have come out to say that RH hurt, harassed, threatened, and silenced them. You're removing us from the discourse because we're... what? Inconvenient? Not POC enough? Too white? Too compromised? Not good enough? Insufficient? Or just... inconvenient? It'd be easier on you if I didn't exist, so let's make it that I don't. Consign me to silence and erasure and nothing. You can't wail "white women's tears!" about me, so you just nothing me into the void.

You at least will attack the white women. If they are so "UGH white people" than what am I, if I'm beneath your notice?

Oh, right: because if I'm a real activist, a real bold POC like you, I'll speak out in namespace. So RH and Alex and Tori and you can harass and bully and blackmail me into silence. So you can dig up old emails of mine and send them to my employer.

Or, wait. Maybe you didn't know about that part, the part where RH bought my silence with blackmail? Maybe despite being clearly part of her defense squad, you weren't in on that? But if you didn't know... why not listen to those who do know? It's not news. She's done it before. She'll do it again.

It's inconvenient for your rhetoric to believe that real true black people disagree with you, I know. It's inconvenient for your rhetoric if it's RH and not her enemies who are the outers, the blackmailers, the doxxers. It's convenient for you to say that it's white people against you and RH. But when white people are protecting me, and you're vanishing me into thin air--making me less than nothing, a nonevent, a nonentity, not even worthy of protection against blackmail--well. You tell me who the enemy is.

And Tempest? Ask yourself if you've ever sent RH anything you wouldn't want forwarded to your employers, publishers, friends, family, beloveds. She threatened me. I doubt you're sacrosanct.

(No, I'm not threatening you. I have nothing on you. I would do you no harm. But she blackmailed me, after I was, briefly, a friend of hers. Just... fair warning.)

From: (Anonymous)

SA:

FYI, I'm posting this here and not elsewhere because I was threatened with blackmail and I am being excruciatingly cautious about my IP. But if someone wants to link to it or repost for me, you may.

From: (Anonymous)

I don't believe logging is on on Azarias's post, if you wish to repost it there.

From: (Anonymous)

I am so sorry this was done to you, and I am sorry you are being erased and having your abuse dismissed. The more details that emerge, the more it seems to me that Winterfox's behaviour is like that of a cult leader. That she has such a hold over supporters or ex-supporters - particularly if they are marginalised - is horrifying.

I believe you, nonnie, and you have my support.

From: (Anonymous)

I'm really sorry, nonny.

From: (Anonymous)

That's abhorrent. I'm so sorry she did that to you, and that Tempest is making you feel victimized and erased all over again.

From: (Anonymous)

*standing ovation*

From: (Anonymous)

I'm so sorry, nonnie. I absolutely believe you. I would anyway, but in fact I also I have had independent confirmation of the blackmail.

If you want to talk confidentially, you can always use a sock to email loudlysingcuckoo@gmail.com.

From: (Anonymous)

And yet here she is talking about LM's post on facebook:

I have some feelings about this post and the others popping up (around the same time... huh, I wonder why) about this issue that aren't exactly supportive of it. However, it is important to focus on the core problem: a person whose actions make fans and writers of color feel unsafe within the community and in particular within communities made for US. There are multiple mentions of new/younger writers who don't feel safe or don't feel like they have a place in the community because of RH's actions. That makes me angry and sad. And makes me want to have a conversation specifically with other poc in this community about that probelm. Is that conversation happening somewhere? (If so, but you don't want to be public about where, pm me or email or ping me)

Astonishing lack of self-awareness, or honest cracks in the wall of denial?

From: (Anonymous)

AYRT:

I suspect she wants some kinds of namespace confirmation that those of us who are saying these things aren't just a cabal of evil white women trying to make one specific Thai author look bad for some obscure reason. I mean, I can even sort of understand that; I can see how from the outside it looks odd and suspect when all the people on one side are nameless.

Okay, not all. Plenty of brave souls have spoken in namespace. But many, many of the young POC authors speaking out against RH are nameless, and that would look suspect, except...

...it's because RH eked negative comments out of us in email. About not just other people in SFF fandom, but about our friends, partners, families, employers. And I mean things like, she'd befriend us in her harmless role as BS, and in the course of email conversation she'd say "OMG X is driving me crazy, I hate it when he/she does that" and I'd reply with "Oh yeah, it drives me nuts when my boss/husband/father does that too!" You know, as friends do. Yeah, it's a little indiscreet, but I think most people don't consider it too risky to hear "My boss is driving me crazy," and say "Oh yeah, I hate it when my boss does that!"

Only with RH/BS, it is risky. It's extremely risky. She'll collect every "I hate it when my boss does that" and "I disagree with my mom on religion, but I don't want to break her heart" and "if my husband leaves the dishes undone one more time I'm gonna lose my mind" and wraps them up together. And when you show the slightest sign of dissent, she lets you know. That she has saved them all. That she has figured out who your boss, mother, husband is. (Because most of us don't wrap ourselves in five layers of pseudonym, so with work, we are findable. And she has time for that work.) And that she will send them if you defect.

So. So we're afraid. Of losing our jobs, alienating our families, hurting our friends.

So Tempest won't get the namespace explanation that is apparently all that she'll accept. Because her "friend" deliberately arranged it so she can't have that.

And yeah, no, I don't trust Tempest. I don't trust that if I pm or email or "ping" her that she won't talk to RH, who will then out me and send the emails to my employer. I don't. Why should I? She has been a knee-jerk supporter of RH and eraser of me over and over and OVER AND OVER. Why should I believe that she'd protect me now?

God knows that when I was an angry activist student I wouldn't have said this, but I'm way safer with the middle-aged white ladies.

I actually do hope that Tempest doesn't learn this the hard way, with blackmail herself, because nobody deserves that. But I do hope to hell that she is able to believe that it is real without it happening to her.

(And thank you to everyone else who has supported me in this thread. I'm too tired right now to reply one by one, but oh, it has helped.)

From: (Anonymous)

Thank you for taking the time to tell us this.

Tempest is a thoroughly horrid person, and nothing excuses her behavior. Like RH, she needs to own what she's doing.